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The wipboten Red Dot Scope Mount is a specialized mounting solution designed exclusively for red dot sights, ensuring a perfect fit on both Picatinny and Weaver rails. Its robust construction and lightweight design make it an essential accessory for any serious shooter looking to enhance their aiming capabilities.
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Great affordable option
I've taken this thing on and off my pewpew many times with my sight attached and it has yet to lose zero. This is a great option if you want to save some money
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Affordable Yet Surprising Quality
*******Update 07-31-2018*******The mount is still going strong and giving me zero issues or cause for complaint however in my original review I mentioned the need to crank the windage adjustment almost all the way to the right just to get on paper... I'd like to address that for the curious out there.I pulled the UTG scope off the rail and put it on a known accurate rifle. A Ruger 1022 with barrel and stock upgrades. At the range I noticed I didn't have to crank the scope back to center granted I did make windage adjustments I just forget how much although it's in my review of the scope. So the windage issue was with the scope and NOT the rail, side mount, or rifle. Cheap optics give cheap results and good bad or indifferent I felt the need to update with this detail to help provide as much info as possible for anyone reading this.Hope it helps and thanks for reading!!!*******End of update*************UPDATE*******02-23-2018Ok so time to update again with a couple more trips to the range.FIRST however I have to apologize for my first review in that I may have been mistaken in one of my observations. Previously I stated that I didn't see any wild shifts in the point of impact where windage is concerned when I switched optics to another rifle. I apologize and don't know what happened for sure however I suspect I simply screwed up somehow and thought I saw new holes appear in my used Target when I didn't. So the next part addresses that...Shift in point of zero versus point of aim when going from one rifle to another... Previously I used this mount on a non matching CAI Bulgarian 74 and swapped it to a VEPR in 7.62X39 to check for point shifts from rifle to rifle. This time I took the VEPR out on its own and noticed a huge shift in point of impact!!! Rounds were impacting way low and waaay right. I had to crank the windage back to the left a long ways to get into paper at the same 50 yard distance. Upon zeroing for this rifle specifically I redid the remove shoot replace repeat repeat repeat routine an unknown number of times and experienced zero shifts on that rifle. This brings me to some conclusions....Conclusions....Being that all my testing had taken place in below freezing and some below zero temperatures and I haven't broken the lever yet I'd say odds of that happening are fairly low. Impossible??? Oh hell no as anything is possible. Likely nope not likely at all!!!Return to zero, so far this mount/base has returned to zero every time during my FIFTY YARD TESTING!!! Note the caps on distance as anytime distance increases the differences become exacerbated (they increase and get worse). I also have concluded in my own mind that you're not going to transfer this mount from one rifle to another even in an emergency without having to zero for that rifle it's on. Yes I'm sure someone out there has a few rifles that will prove my conclusions wrong but I'm saying don't expect to be that guy. I suspect this having to do with the proverbial nothing bring square level or parallel on an AK type rifle. It is what it is so it's a deal with it affair much like I wouldn't expect to not have to rezero optics for an AR when switched from one rifle to another. The point of impact shifts however I'd expect to be more pronounced on the AK platform.Other thoughts worth note I think to others....The release lever can be a bit bitchy especially with gloves on.The mount I feel is well worth the $40-50 or whatever it was it cost me. I don't think I'd pay more than that though I'd just buy myself the MI model and be done with it. Butt (intentional) for the money and a budget mount I feel the one I received is a no brainer.In time I'll put a junk scope on it and knock rifle over in concrete in below freezing temps to see if the mount breaks but that'll be the extent of any real intentional abuse I put to it or my rifle.If for any reason this mount fails I'll update my review or for any additional thoughts/experiences with it. Otherwise I think my testing is about done.Summary:-Fair to solid deal for the money. Any more money and I'd buy MI and not mess around.-I like it a ton better than the "K" optics supposedly made in Russia mount I bought a few years ago.-Unknown if "as good" as the higher priced MI model but I'd suspect no way.-Holds and returns to zero countless many times tested.-Easy to adjust for individual side rails without tools. YOU DO NOT NEED TOOLS UNLIKE WHAT LESS MECHANICALLY MINDED REVIEWERS HAVE CLAIMED!!!-May not fit your rifle perfectly for center over bore and canting issues however as the "smack the Russian into it" reviewer said I think it can largely be adjusted or just dealt with as is.-Can not remove and drill tap new holes to mount rail into like some because rail is machined into mount as a one piece unit.-If I missed something I think you'll probly find the answer further down in my reviews and updates for this mount.As always I hope this helps someone and if it did please let Amazon know. If it didn't please tell them as well. Just please take the time to read it all and thanks for your time as you're welcome for mine!*****UPDATE*****02-12-2018I have made two trips to the range with this mount since purchasing it. Here are my thoughts, impressions, and experiences. Keep in mind please that two short trips to the range do not mean an empiracal determination of this products quality or durability over the long-term.Scope used was a brand new UTG bug buster I purchased off of Amazon at the same time as this mount. I'm not the sort to try to use a higher quality optic on a lower quality mount and vice versa. I tend to try to balance out cost and quality especially on budget (read potentially cheap POS items) items so as to avoid polishing a turd. Why put a Schmidt and Bender in $10 rings on a $10 no name rail on a $1500 rifle? It's just doesn't make any sense to me but if my thinking confuses you it's my money and you're free to cheap out how your money desires!!! LolThe first important issue I encountered at the range was the need to sneak up to ~10 yards to even hit paper. I had to crank the windage knob almost all the way to the right in order to get my point of impact to hit close to my point of aim at 7-10 yards. I am unsure yet if this was an issue with the scope or with the mount. I could have determined that simply by moving from 50y it to 100y after the scope was zero'd however I did not out of laziness and the fact it was too damn cold for how I was dressed both trips!!! For those who don't follow along if the issue was the rail since my point of impact was to the left of my point of aim at 7-10y much less at 50y if I moved to 100y and my POI shifted to the left it would be the rails fault if it stayed centered then the original issue would've been the scope as shipped from the factory.Now once I zero'd the scope I removed and replaced it several times to determine if it would return to zero. At 50y it returned to zero Everytime. I did this several times but wasn't really counting. Fire three, remove the scope base etc, reinstall, shoot three, verify same POI, repeat until I got bored and the cold started making my numb hands hurt!!!Installed base etc on another rifle and fired three rounds at 50y and noted that it was hitting the same POI as the other rifle. No this doesn't always happen but being it wasn't wildly off that satisfied my curiosity that the windage issue wasn't with the rifles side rail.Now for those of us who live in cold country it is important to know that with gloves on your not likely to remove this base without first removing your gloves. I couldn't however I didn't try very many times as it was just easier to take off the damn glove!!!Yes my handle is California however I moved out of that place several years ago to the cold northern Midwest.Outside temps were single digits to low teens and even with a snuggly adjusted lever I did not experience any breakage from the cold making metal brittle. The rifles were out in the cold for a couple of hours so while not the end all be all test I felt some might like to know.Rifles used were a non matching CAI 5.45X39 Bulgarian 74 and a 7.62X39 VEPR for those who need to know.I will shoot both 50&100 yards next trip and update to attempt to determine if the need to run out virtually all my windage adjustment was the scopes fault or the mounts.For now my rating remains 5 stars with everything considered however after a couple more trips to the range that may change. Time will tell and I will update as time goes on.*****End of 02-12-2018 Update*****Typically I won't write a review on a product that hasn't been actually used in the real world yet. By real world I don't mean it's gone to Iraq etc I just mean taking it to the field to hunt with it or recreationally use on the range. With that said here's some initial thoughts and findings that I hope some will find useful.Fit:I tried this mount on several ("several") rifles. My own as well as others. The clamp adjusts quickly and easily without tools for every side rail tried so far. Romanian, Russian, Bulgarian, etc. It fits them all. No real surprise there.The lever can be a little tight to open once closed however that's likely a product of being a little overly tight on the adjustment ie my fault not the products.Quality for the money:Initial quality impressions are that it's a very well made mount and doesn't scream cheap POS right out of the box. Unlike a mount made and sold by "K" optics that I purchased a couple years ago and never used. "K" is not their name but anyone interested or familiar with these mounts will figure it out. This Chinese mount looks and feels way better than the supposed Russian model I bought directly from "K". Which does in fact bring me to another aspect that I feel is important.Centering over bore, height over bore, etc....:Without going down a full list of mounting attempts I'll give you the short version.-Romanian rifles don't expect it to perfectly center over bore and or not have any cant off level. Out of "several" rifles tried it only centered and leveled properly by eye on one. Interestingly it was a WASR2.-Russian it was tried on a VEPR and did center over bore nicely however it was just barely noticed slightly canted. Not enough to matter to me in the real world as I'd just rotate my crosshairs until they are level with the world.-Bulgarian 74 (circle 10) this mount I received fit flawlessly on. CAI non matching numbers none the less. Center over bore appeared spotless. Level/cant appeared perfect. Literally like it was made for this rifle!!!-Height over bore was nice and low on all rifles tried. Guesstimate 3/16" over the top cover to the bottom/underside of the rail.Other potentially pertinent observations:If you have a TWS dogleg rail with TWS rear peep sight that sight is going to cause you some issues. No I didn't monkey around much trying to get it to fit with the rear sight on however it appeared to be too tall irregardless and would hit the underside of the mount rail.I've installed and removed this mount a good 100+ times at least so far and haven't broken anything. I've had the lever painfully tight to open and haven't broken it yet.The picatinny/Weaver (unsure which it is) is machined into the mount so you won't be able to unbolt it and move it over like with some Russian mounts. (Drilling and tapping fresh holes in the process)Off center issues and to a certain amount canting issues I think can be resolved as one reviewer put it by carefully "smacking the Russian into it".If you plan to use this mount on several rifles my advice would be to choose what one rifle it will reside on full time and set it up for that one rifle. Deal with the issues on any others until you can afford other mounts be it this one or better.Edited to add I don't own a MI version of this mount so I can't give it a side by side comparison. However maybe there's an honest reviewer out there who can. Also edited for smart phone corrections where it inserted the wrong word because it's so much smarter than the rest of us. F-ing phones!!!If I think of anything else I will update my review as well as for any issues as time goes on. No updates is good news!!!Now I wasn't going to say this but I feel the need to do so... Normally I don't "cheap out" and expect lower cost items to perform like higher quality items. Example is my own rifle sports a TWS dogleg with rear sight and MI forend with mil spec gripod. Nothing cheap there. I will end up buying the MI version of this mount directly from the MFG or reputable dealer in time and use this mount as a bounce around mount to switch between different rifles to see how well new rifles truly shoot.So with that all said if you find this helpful please let Amazon know by clicking so that we can help keep real reviews that genuinely do help people out and get rid of all the worthless filler BS reviews that serve no good purpose except to take up space.
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Glad I didn't purchase the Midwest Industries mount.
A little history: I purchased a Leapers UTG Pro Quick Detach AK Side Mount for my Rileys Defense RAK-47 Classical. I had the mount before my AK even arrived. Then I lost the mount. After searching for days I figured I must have tossed it in the trash and it was gone so I ordered a second one. I later found that I had left it outside after showing it to my son. It had been rained on. The mount was okay, but the box was ruined which negated the possibility of returning it since I didn’t purchase it from Amazon. Too bad. My AK finally arrived and I went to put the mount on it. Hmm.. Doesn’t want to go on there. Huh.. Yeah, it doesn’t fit. So be it known that the Leapers UTG Pro Quick Detach AK Side Mount will NOT fit the Rileys Defense RAK-47. It’s too tight and won’t slide onto the AK-s optic mount. (Maybe it shrunk in the rain? :) If I had been able to mount it, the picatinny rail would have sat about half an inch above the dust cover. So, I ended up with two Leapers that don’t fit my AK. I purchased neither from Amazon. The first has a damaged box and I would have to pay shipping and possibly a restocking fee to return them. I’ll just toss them in the corner. My sons might purchase AK’s of their own now. If they do, and get different ones than I did, then these things might fit their weapons.Enter the Tacksport Red Dot Scope Mount. It cost about the same as the Leapers, but it actually fit my AK. I knew all about this mount before I ordered it. Most importantly, the mounts locking mechanism was different than the Leapers. I knew how to adjust it and what to do should it mount slightly crooked. I had no problems adjusting it to tightly fit and it was straight as an arrow. I took my AK down to the range and had no issues zeroing in using my Sightmark Mini Shot M-Spec FMS Red Reflex Sight and my Sightmark bore site (which despite a number of bad reviews worked great). Everything worked out fine other than wasting money on the Leapers. Like the Leapers, the Tacksport picatinny rail sits about a half inch above the dust cover.Now, everyone talks about how the Tacksport is a clone of the Midwest Industries AK Side Rail Mount which cost more than twice as much. In appearance it initially does look the same, but if you should compare the two, the MI sits lower over the dust cover than the Tacksport. So low that you have to remove the mount to get the dust cover off. With the Tacksport, as previously stated, the rail is about half an inch above the dust cover. You can actually take the dust cover off and replace it without removing the Tacksport if you choose to do so, but that half inch still isn’t much room and you’re going to want to take the bolt out when cleaning anyway so you will need to remove pretty much any mount. The height of the Tacksport might be a good thing, but it might be a bad thing depending on your preference. Do you want your red dot a little higher or as low as possible? I personally find I like the extra height. You might like the closer fit of the MI. Then there is the weight. Since the Tacksport is higher above the dust cover than the MI you would think that means more metal and more weight. Not so. The MI specs say it weighs just over seven ounces. The Tacksport weighs just over six ounces. I’m not sure how Tacksport did it but it’s a fact.To sum up:The Leapers won’t fit the Riley Defense at all (it may fit your AK). The locking lever is on the side and does NOT have that extra little locking button like the MI or Tacksport. The picatinny rail sits about half an inch above the dust cover. Weighs 6.2 ozThe MI fits the Riley and the picatinny rail sits snug to the dust cover without touching it. The locking lever is on the bottom and has that extra little locking tab on the locking lever. Weighs 7.3 ozThe Tacksport looks like and has the same mounting system as the MI, but is heavier and sits half an inch higher above the dust cover. Weighs 6.5 ozFor now, I’m happy with the Tacksport. It mounts easy. (If mounted really tight it can be a bear to take off although I’ve had no issues.) I like the height. It sits straight. It maintains zero after removing and remounting it and it never came loose.In the last thirty days I’ve probably spent $5,000 on guns and accessories. (Stuff the Socialists Liberals don’t want me to have. Thank goodness I live in Texas.) I’m not sure why I didn’t go ahead and spring for the Midwest Industries, but I’m glad I didn’t. As stated, the Tacksport is lighter than the MI and it sits higher than the MI. Both are good things since this is for an AK. My AK is already just over nine pounds which is three pounds heavier than my AR-15. (Unlike most other Colt AR-15’s, the LE1620HBPW is just under six pounds.) It’s nice to add as little additional weight as possible to the AK. Then, holding the AK up to my shoulder I really have to cock my head to see down the sight line. That’s just a little bit easier with the Tacksport with the Sightmark on top.In conclusion, you probably already know to push up on the locking lever and then turn the nut on top to adjust how tight the side mount mounts to your AK. Know that if it seems to sit crooked then take a close look and see if a rivet on your AK is in the way. (All AK’s are not designed equally.) If so, you may need to customize your mount. NOT your AK! If you can’t get your Tacksport to mount tightly or can’t resolve it being misaligned then simply return it (assuming you didn’t modify it). It’s easy and it’s free. That’s why you bought from Amazon. If the Tacksport doesn’t fit correctly on your AK, odds are that the MI won’t either. I guess you might try the Leapers. Good luck.One last thing. When mounting the Tacksport, flip the locking lever all the way over to the right. Don’t forget to press that little locking tab at the base of the lever else you will not be able to move the lever. Worse case you might snap it off. (I had some difficulty with that little locking tab at first, but it soon got easier and I no longer have a problem with it.) This loosens it completely, negating any difficulties in sliding it onto the AK’s optic mount. If it’s too tight and you can’t flip it all the way back to the left then remove it and adjust the nut counter clockwise. If it’s too loose then adjust the nut clockwise. (Looking down from the top.) Keep adjusting until you are satisfied that the Tacksport is mounted tightly enough. To adjust the nut just push up on the locking lever (while not mounted on the AK) and the nut will rise up allowing you to easily turn it with your fingers. After adjusting the nut always make sure it slips back down into it’s proper place.Okay, I’m done. Have fun on the range!
K**N
The Rounded Rivet is the Culprit
Like others, my rail was canted to the right on my PSA GF3. In reading about other's similar issues, I confirmed it was the rounded rivet on the accessory mount that caused the issue. I confirmed it by sliding the rail on only about 90% before locking it down. The rivet was then in the space below/behind the rail mount, not pushing against the edge. It was then perfectly straight. So, three options; return it, modify the rivet on the firearm, or cut a small piece off of the mount/rail where is contacts the rivet. I am in favor of modifying the $30 mount, not the $800 rifle. I will use an angle grinder and remove just 1/16" of so of the back of the mount. Should not even be visible. The Next Day: took me 5 minutes of work and it now fits perfectly. Clamped the rail down and took off just a tiny bit of metal with a grinder.
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